Brightside S9 wrote: BBC changed the transmissions sometime in June this year. After this the ROSS 6110USB receiver wouldn't show BBC HD channels unless ITV1 HD (granada) or CH4 HD was displayed first. Now after coming home from holidays, BBC1 HD and BBC HD always say no signal, no matter what I select prior to swirching to those channels.Weird.
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It's never been necessary to select channels in a specific orderon my Ross HD receiver. So I do a satellite scan after a Factory Default. BBC HD is found as a channel, but no signal message. BBC 1 HD not listed on found channels.Because the transponder details in the default list are out of date. So I read what the BBC says about this and with other information from discussion groups it aappears that I need to alter the 'symbol rate' on 10847 v from 22000 to 23000 (from discussion groups) and scan that TP. Done that and the scan doesnt find any channels. Set the 'symbol rate' back to 22000 and scan the TP, still nothing found.Getting BBC HD and BBC One HD should be a simple matter of changing thesymbol rate for the 10847 V transponder.
Sep 03, 2016 Newbie Here ROSS HD DVB S2 1201. Thread starter Butch100; Start date Sep 29, 2013; B. Butch100 New Member. Would you know how I can get the latest software up date for this receiver? Lazarus Tout Rond Bon Oeuf. Staff member. Messages 25,618 My Satellite Setup. & Tevion 28208ALD FTA Digital Sat Receiver (35cm Portable Dish) My Location.
I assume, when you're in thetransponder menu, that you're getting a heathly reading for signalquality and level for this transponder? On Saturday, September 17th, 2011 at 11:45:23h +0100, Brightside S9 wrote: So I do a satellite scan after a Factory Default. BBC HD is found as a channel, but no signal message. J G Miller wrote: On Saturday, September 17th, 2011 at 11:45:23h +0100, Brightside S9 wrote: So I do a satellite scan after a Factory Default.
BBC HD is found as a channel, but no signal message. BBC 1 HD not listed on found channels.
You are 100% certain that you have deleted BBC 1 HD and BBC HD from the stored channel lists?It's quite possible that the Ross will have left the old non-functionalBBC HD channels in the channel list and have added the new versions atthe end. After a scan, I always look at the end for anything new sincethat's the way this box operates. It's then just a matter of moving thechannels back to their preferred positions.Michael Chare18.09.11 02:53. On 11:45, brightside S9 wrote: BBC changed the transmissions sometime in June this year.
After this the ROSS 6110USB receiver wouldn't show BBC HD channels unless ITV1 HD (granada) or CH4 HD was displayed first. Now after coming home from holidays, BBC1 HD and BBC HD always say no signal, no matter what I select prior to swirching to those channels.
So I do a satellite scan after a Factory Default. BBC HD is found as a channel, but no signal message.
BBC 1 HD not listed on found channels. So I read what the BBC says about this and with other information from discussion groups it aappears that I need to alter the 'symbol rate' on 10847 v from 22000 to 23000 (from discussion groups) and scan that TP. Done that and the scan doesnt find any channels. Brightside S9 wrote: Thanks John and JGM. After posting yestyerday I got peed off with the box, did a factory reset and turned it off at the wall.
Then late yesterday I replugged it it to the mains and told it to scan for FTA and NIT on satellite 4 (Astra 2D). There is some improvement. Here's the current status. Llooking at the transponder menu for transponder 10, (the transponder for 10847 V) where I find it is now transponder 10 of 99 (not a typo) and it shows parameters 10847 V 22000.
Hmm now the box has found 99 transponders, but 10 is still not good for BBC HD stuff. I look at transponder 99 and it shows parameters 10847 V 23000. Another hmmm, the box has found more transponders than the factory reset of 92, and transponder 99 has the correct parameters for the BBC HD stuff.
This looks better.The additional transponders show the advantage of doing a scan includingthe NIT, or Network Information Table, from which the Ross hasextracted data for the current configuration of the 10847 V transponder. I look and see what HD I have got listed on the 337 TV channels the scan has found. The ones I know about are all there.
They are:- 2 x ITV1, make ITV Granada a favourite, ignore the other, CH 4 HD, NHK World HD, BBC 1 HD, BBC HD and 6945. Make all these favouites. From favourites list select ITV 1 HD - takes about 2 seconds for picture to appear.
Channel change to NHK World HD, takes about 2 seconds for picture to appear.Channel change to CH 4 HD takes about 3 seconds for picture to appear. Channel change to BBC HD, after 6 seconds 'no signal' message. Leave it a bit and it will provide a picture eventually.
Similar effects changing from any of the other HD channels to BBC HD, BBC 1 HD and / or 6945. The picture will appear eventually but usually get 'no signal' message before an eventual picture.The receiver is evidently having trouble locking on to the BBC HDtransponder.
On my Ross box, there's no difference in the time it takesto get a picture for any of the HD channels - it's always around 3 or 4seconds. Brightside S9 wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:21:17 +0100, John Legon wrote: The software on the ROSS box is V1.0.6. Well, that version is out of date. It should be V.1.0.7, though I doubt that this is the cause of the present problem. On the other hand, there is an issue with some DVB-S2 broadcasts which is resolved using the later version, so an upgrade might be the solution. Thanks John.
At 10:51:01 Mon, 19 Sep 2011, brightside S9 wrote:On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:21:17 +0100, John Legon wrote:brightside S9 wrote: So am I correct in drawing the conclusion that my ROSS HDR 6110USB box can successfully change itself from DVB-S to DVB-S2 as transmitted by CH4 HD. But cannot do so when changing from DVB-S to DVB-S2 when transmitted by BBC?? But is quite happy changing channels within the transponder receiving DVB-S2 from the BBC.The Ross can successfully change to and from BBC HD and all the otherthe channels, whether SD or HD.
When working correctly, as I say,there's no difference in response times for BBC HD, ITV HD or C4 HD. The software on the ROSS box is V1.0.6.Well, that version is out of date. It should be V.1.0.7, though Idoubt that this is the cause of the present problem. On the other hand,there is an issue with some DVB-S2 broadcasts which is resolved usingthe later version, so an upgrade might be the solution.Thanks John.
Reading the discussions in various AV web sites it seemsthat V1.0.7 (sent by email from ROSS to one particular contributor)seems to have fixed his problem which looks very much like mine.I reverted to v 1.0.6 last night and can confirm that it doesn't workproperly with the BBC HD channels. Using the 'masterplug' v.1.0.7 filewhich I obtained from Ross technical support solves the problem.When doing a scan 'FTA + NIT' for Astra 28E, however, the box stalled onone particular transponder (12188?), so I pressed exit (which saved thechannel data up to that point) and deleted the transponder. Repeatingthe scan with the NIT included reinstated the transponder, so I deletedit again and did a scan as FTA only which took me to the end of the scanwithout stalling.I then went back to the Telestar version of v.1.0.7 since it has a fewminor functional advantages.
The change from the Ross version requireda factory reset which set up well over 2000 channels for Astra 19E andHotbird 13E. Not for the faint-hearted.P.S. I notice your experiments with various s/w on the ROSS box. Youprobably already know that the s/w for Telestar TD 2100 HD isdowloadable but dated.JULY 2011. I can't tell you the version.I've now also looked at that file and it is still numbered v.1.0.7,though with the later date. Not sure what changes have been made but Idid notice that the 'Manual Add Service' menu option was missing.-John [email protected] 02:08John Legon20.09.11 05:17. Brightside S9 wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:19:04 +0100, John Legon wrote: I'm sending you a copy of the Ross firmware 1.0.7 to your reply-to address.
I've never actually used this file myself since I installed the German version, long before the update became available from Ross technical support. I hope it works, and that you have a copy of the previous version to fall back on.
Thanks John, here's the reference to AV forum discussions. See the last update where the contributor has given the details of information from ROSS technical support, especially the P.S. The s/w hasn't arrived yet.
The reply to address works, I've just tested it. But it may object to large files. You could try attercliffe at clara dot co dot ukAn email has just been sent with an attachment of about 6 MB.As others have noted, there is some difficulty changing the symbol ratefrom 22000 to 23000 for the BBC HD transponder - the Ross keeps changingit back to the old value! But doing a scan with the NIT fixes that, oryou could add a new transponder and (optionally) delete the old one.Anyway, once configured, there is essentially no problem with any of theHD channels.Jim20.09.11 09:07. On 11:10, brightside S9 wrote: On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:09:18 +0100, John Legon wrote: J G Miller wrote: On Saturday, September 17th, 2011 at 11:45:23h +0100, Brightside S9 wrote: So I do a satellite scan after a Factory Default.
BBC HD is found as a channel, but no signal message. BBC 1 HD not listed on found channels. You are 100% certain that you have deleted BBC 1 HD and BBC HD from the stored channel lists? It's quite possible that the Ross will have left the old non-functional BBC HD channels in the channel list and have added the new versions at the end. After a scan, I always look at the end for anything new since that's the way this box operates. It's then just a matter of moving the channels back to their preferred positions.
Thanks John and JGM. After posting yestyerday I got peed off with the box, did a factory reset and turned it off at the wall. Then late yesterday I replugged it it to the mains and told it to scan for FTA and NIT on satellite 4 (Astra 2D). There is some improvement. Here's the current status. Llooking at the transponder menu for transponder 10, (the transponder for 10847 V) where I find it is now transponder 10 of 99 (not a typo) and it shows parameters 10847 V 22000. Hmm now the box has found 99 transponders, but 10 is still not good for BBC HD stuff.
I look at transponder 99 and it shows parameters 10847 V 23000. Another hmmm, the box has found more transponders than the factory reset of 92, and transponder 99 has the correct parameters for the BBC HD stuff. This looks better.
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I look and see what HD I have got listed on the 337 TV channels the scan has found. The ones I know about are all there. They are:- 2 x ITV1, make ITV Granada a favourite, ignore the other, CH 4 HD, NHK World HD, BBC 1 HD, BBC HD and 6945. Make all these favouites.
From favourites list select ITV 1 HD - takes about 2 seconds for picture to appear. Channel change to NHK World HD, takes about 2 seconds for picture to appear.Channel change to CH 4 HD takes about 3 seconds for picture to appear.
Channel change to BBC HD, after 6 seconds 'no signal' message. Leave it a bit and it will provide a picture eventually. Similar effects changing from any of the other HD channels to BBC HD, BBC 1 HD and / or 6945. The picture will appear eventually but usually get 'no signal' message before an eventual picture. However if I get any of the BBC HD stuff showing I can change between BBC HD, BBC 1 HD and 6945 as often as I like and they all come in after about 4 seconds. So to eliminate the channel changing as a cause of the problem I find that in the Transponder menu the following occurs.
I look at transponder 1 (of 99) the signal is L= 99, Q=62 this looks OK. I then change to transponder 99 (10847 V 23000) and get L=99 and Q = 0. It will sit like that and at some time later it changes to Q=72. Change to transponder 1 again,. instantly. get L=99 and Q=62.
Change to transponder 99 L=99, Q=0 until after 36 seconds (in this one example) Q jumps to Q = 70 to 72 varying. Now I wondered what happens if I switch in and out of CH 4 HD transponder, which is 88 out of 99 on the transponder menu. Heres the result:- Transponder 88, L= 99 Q=51. Change to transponder 87 and. instantly. get L= 99 Q=60.
Change to transponder 88 and within 1 second get L= 99 and Q=51. Change to transponder 89 and instantly get L= 99 Q = 54. Change back to transponder 88 and after a second get L=99 Q = 51. So am I correct in drawing the conclusion that my ROSS HDR 6110USB box can successfully change itself from DVB-S to DVB-S2 as transmitted by CH4 HD. But cannot do so when changing from DVB-S to DVB-S2 when transmitted by BBC??
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